Trolls, bullying, and harassment

Is this Shadow or ALI KID?

In reply to Wingdude88

Is this Shadow or ALI KID?

Yes. One and the same. If you have posts/threads to add, feel free.

In reply to dershasho

Bump.
That shit over there is getting rediculous.

Missy Patton said,
http://www.playlist.com/forum/general/topic/255987972/3

57 min 41 sec ago

he's been sending me tons of PMs, threatening my life :(
my god, the mods will hear about this.

this is just one example of someone that has been harassed and is being harassed by shadow. this post expresses the type of harassment he is capable of. I wont name any other specific names of the girls he has harassed for their sake but it is relatively common knowledge throughout the forums who most of them are. He even goes as far as to create fake identities for the purpose of getting close to his victims so he can talk himself up, or gain information from the individuals he is harassing. Many, if not most of these girls are under the age of 18. this is why a very large number of those of us who frequent the forum believe it is necessary to ban not just his account, but his IP address. Trolling is one thing.. but what he's doing is another.

In reply to I bring ÐP

He even goes as far as to create fake identities for the purpose of getting close to his victims so he can talk himself up, or gain information from the individuals he is harassing

that's right, i forgot that he pretended to be Tommy to get closer to her...
banning this users IP address is the ONLY way to solve the problem. this situation has been dragging on for months, and i think it's safe to say that all the PPL forum regs are sick of it. like dershasho said, we are used to dealing with offensive trolls and silly bickering, but this has gotten out of hand. this person will NOT give up the harassment, and if you've paid any attention to his forum activity, you should know how disturbing it is.

OK HERE IS THE INFO FROM ONE OF THE GIRLS FRIENDS AND ALSO SOME OTHER SHTUFF:

K this is what Ashley posted today. It is probably the longest topic post EVAH and includes excerpts from letters and mail sent to my friend mandy from that worm shadow under all his troll disguises.
I always said he was a psycho manipulating freak and here is the reason:

For starters let me tell you all this is Ashley.
This last Tuesday night I was studying scriptures and a new book about my families religion that my Mom gave me when my Phone rang for about the dozenth time that day.
I was tempted to not answer or even bother but when I looked at the screen I saw it was Mandy. As you all know: her and I have hit a VERY rough spot in our friendship. Not just a few bumps on the road, more like a boulder preventing us from moving forward and instead making it so that we could only Move backwards.
Things got worse and worse and worse and the last few weeks I've been certain that I would never speak to her again and she would never speak to me again. Ah but alas, I suppose we're teenage girls having our stupid fights.
Sure enough out of the wild blue yonder, she called me last night.
I saw her name on the screen and was tempted to not answer, though at the same time I have missed her.
Before I deleted my last account, Serena Rivera, on August 4th: I sent her this letter. I think it will help you understand better what I'm about to do here, now.
Mandy,
Hey: please don’t be mad at Jessica for it, but she sent me the conversation you two had. In there you asked her if I totally hated your living guts now.
1. It takes a lot for me to flat out HATE someone. More than the immaturity you’ve displayed.
2. I sure as hell no longer trust you.
3. I don’t know if I’ll ever quite forgive you for recent events because above all, what you said
4. Hurt me.
Allow me to elaborate.
Why do I feel like so many of your actions and feelings are the exact opposite of mine? Why does that make me feel like you only behave the way you do too make me look stupid? For example.
1. I used to like Shadow. You hated him and I couldn’t change that not with every fiber of strength in me. Instead, I chose to respect how you felt.
2. The second he sticks a knife in BOTH your back and mine, make me hate him, you suddenly love him. I chose to respect how you felt.
Then out of the blue, you start treating me like garbage. Leaving me in the dark about it too. Not confronting me the way an honest friend would.
And when you finally do, you do it in front of everyone. I don’t think you said what you did because you meant it. If you did, that would make you a liar and I simply don’t see you as one. You did and said those things just to humiliate me. More of a coward than a liar. Well congratulations honey, it worked.
I’m starting to think the problem is not so much that you do what you do only so you can have actions opposite mine, but maybe because you’re so easily influenced. Point is, coincidence or not, ever since you have gotten close with Shadow, you have started treating everyone in your life who cared about you like Trash. I am seeing an immature, dishonest, rude, backstabbing, and hypocritical side of you. Hmmm… who does that sound like? Immature… rude… backstabbing.. hypocritical.. cowardly… well let’s see.. maybe.. Shadow!?
I cared about you. You were important too me. I valued your friendship and I fought for it. You took those efforts and you spit them back in my face for no reason. You should know this letter isn’t me trying to make you feel differently about him just because I do. Nor is it me asking you to abandon him. This letter is not me saying you’re forgiven and it’s not me asking for an apology. Because honestly, I don’t know if I will be able to welcome you into my life for a long time to come if ever. Not until it is proven too me that you can move on from the bullshit.
Maybe I’m being over sensitive, maybe I’m growing bitter with all that I’ve been through and the knives protruding out of my back.
Know this: though I may not approve of Shadow, I support your friendship and I respect that you have the right to choose your friends. I want you to be happy and I’m glad he cares about you. So Just because I don’t like him at all, doesn’t mean I don’t respect him for meaning something too you.
So when you asked Jessica today if I hated your guts, I decided to write you this letter. Because I think you deserve to know where I stand in all of this. Because I didn’t like the feeling of being left in the dark by you and in the same way I didn’t like it, I wouldn’t want to bring it on to you. It hurts. Because, deny it if you will, I care about you and it’s obvious you still care about me. You wouldn’t have asked Jessica If you didn’t.
So Mandy, Go where you will in life, as long as you let your feet do the walking. Love and hate who you will, as long as no one influences that. Don’t let anyone tell you right from wrong.k Don’t let anyone control you, and don’t let anyone make your choices for you. Seek advice. Seek strength. Confront every situation in life you encounter. Let your mind do the thinking, your heart do the loving, your ears do the listening, your pain do the learning, and your mouth the talking.
Because it’s the only way you’ll get what you deserve.
♥/Ashley

That letter was sent August 4th. The night of August 11th Mandy called me. She first said she was relieved I answered.
She then proceeded to tell me my letter made her cry. That she felt I was right.
This is not what I was trying to make her think when I wrote it but none the less we began talking. We talked for an hour and a half. 89 minutes and 35 seconds, to be exact.
Mandy explained too me that someone about a month ago began sending her messages from a troll account. They first pretended to be Tommy, and then Erin. She told me the messages were awful, so much so it was hard to explain. She gave me her password and asked me to get on here and read them.
Soon this person had make all sorts of fucking trolls, was causing problems up one end and down the other, making it impossible for the REAL people on this site to trust each other whatsoever:
and in short, reading this persons messages:
my stomach began to Churn. Knowing that someone capable of causing this much was among us. That they did too Mandy what they did. That someone would have it in them to fuck with someone else's head THAT much. Even reading them I grew confused,
annoyed,
aggravated,
and above all disappointed that someone that sick
exists.
Reading what this person was saying too her made me see 100% why she has been behaving the way she has lately toward all of us.
So tonight on the phone, our original plan was that I would write a letter to you all pretending to be her: saying sorry after I read those messages. I would tell her my personal opinion on the messages in private. She wanted me too see if I could figure out who it was.
I read all of them. In fact, I put them into Microsoft word as a back and forth message. It totaled to 60 pages of solid bullshit that this person was telling her. I read it again and again. I studied a few other messages in her inbox to and from people that were involved.
And I do believe I Have figured out who it was.
and I do belive I can Prove who it was.

Though something became quite clear too me after reading the first few messages. That this person was lying too her non stop. Deceiving her. Attempting to ruin every friendship she had with anyone else except for.. ironically... one person.
I decided that in the same way this person did nothing but have her running in circles, not sure of who to trust, and not being able to sort anything out of the mess:
you guys did not deserve that from her and I. I decided it would not be right for me to write this letter to you guys pretending too be her saying sorry for all that has happened. We need to be able to trust each other.
So I'm sure many of you are just tired of the drama and that this seems like it's only contributing.
Well let me tell you this: I am sick of the drama too. I miss PPL the way it used to be before all this shit hit the fan.
My attempt in this thread is not to monger on drama or to cause more.
It's to tell the truth.
To help you understand everything that has happened.
And to put all the bullshit
to rest.
To stop it.
Because I feel you all are MORE than worth it.
And so does she.
Note: I have cut out all of her responses at her request. She no longer feels the same way about much of what she said.
This is all of the messages this person sent her in a row, not separated into individual messages.

PretendDrayn:
I find it cute that you and Shadow are always jabbering. I mean how long has it been? He does really care and truely has a heart. Does he even mean anything to you? I'm just curious as he can get fuckeddd for all I care. But I do admire and respect his encouragement. He sees you as a true person and not as some sex doll as others do.
I believe it is legit and I thought he was a bit sketchy at first. Until I made many attractive female trolls and everything else to see if he could fall for any of them. Well, in the end they all get rejected. So, he must see something really special from you. I wouldn't believe I'd actually would defend him, but he's no one I've ever seen before and maybe that is a good thing. He has a great life for himself and is pretty stabled. If I was in your shoes, I would try to figure him out and try to get in his mind. I mean this is just a forum and sometimes we all can get a little goofy once in a while and don't really mean to say the things that we do.
haha and I dont care what you think. You bitch!! This convo will be between us, Shadow wont know about it. And the name is Tommy Gunnn. With my many other profiles of Tommy Gunnn, or am I Tommy Gunn? Some call me the master of trolls.
Well judging by your threads you dont seem to be very happy about anything or possibly where your life is going now do you? Get fuckeddd is probably no means to you. Since you probably get fucked by every guy out there anyways. Hey, at least someone out there ACTUALLY cares about you. I was just telling you how I thought it was just cute you and Shadow had this fueding connection ever since he came into the forum.
I guess it dosent really matter. And you are most certainly right. I know nothing about you. You put a lot of hatred towards him and normally women have at least some type of connection with someone that tries and dosent attack someone else from all the bullshit that person says about them. Maybe I just see Shadow as this guy that I have respect for and crushing him? Is it the right thing to do?
And the Mandy troll? haha, good times!! Really? Nice to him, I havent noticed.
And I hate you just as much if not more. Why do you think I try and make everyones life a living hell? You all are such class A suckas, but I still did come over to you to try and make it a little better for you. Hopefully you wont make mistakes, because you might regret them later in life. You have an opportunity for you, maybe you should try and make the best of it.
Some time in the near future, you will come back to me and thank me for knocking some sense into you. And realizing what could be most important to you.
Has anyone heard from Shadow any? It just makes me wonder if you've actually been there for him as much as he has for you. And I know there is something wrong with you, we all can see it. Don't try and hide it. Since you have my attention, I may just as well reveal my true identity to you.
And that's what makes you a bitch. There's no point in me talking to you if you dont even care. You do mean everything to Shadow, much more than you think you do. But you are too blind to see him. Btw, I had one of my trolls talking to him earlier and he his a wreck right now. I mean at a panic shock type way. His dog just died right in front of him. But it's obvious you dont care so what's the point?
I hate you with a passion? I do not hate you at all. I wanted to personally make sure if Shadow was telling the truth about everything he says. And he did, he proved me wrong. He demolished and crushed every one of my trolls that I had no choice but to give up. At least give up for now. Shadow is a true ginuine type of guy, but he passed with flying colors. All of my trolls were focused on him, but I had to see if his feelings for you were also true as he says. I had to see if I could make him turn against you or at least say something negative about you. It all failed, his code is forever sealed. It was just a course for him to take. He truely cares about you. For someone like, I have respect for.

I would never do that to you. You must mistaken me for another on the porn site. I did not humiliate you in any way. But I did make a false identity of your brother to see how he would react if he was actually talking to your brother. You wasnt suppose to know any of this, since this was reflecting all around Shadow. I had to make sure for myself, to see him in my own eyes. Because I see it all the time in the forums. People calling Shadow a liar and names, such as Crackhead. I wanted to make sure for myself if Crackhead had him figured out. Well, Crackhead is wrong. Shadow is not what he thinks he is.
I could be your brother? You never know. If I could be serious for just a minute. If I reveal my true identity, then what will happen to all of the near future trolls? Someone has to make them, right? PPL wouldnt be the same without them. It's not just me that makes them either. It is a selective group of individuals that is involved as well. But I am mainly the source of it all. The leader as you should call me. So, I cant let you know.
I would never do that to you. You must mistaken me for another on the porn site. I did not humiliate you in any way. But I did make a false identity of your brother to see how he would react if he was actually talking to your brother. You wasnt suppose to know any of this, since this was reflecting all around Shadow. I had to make sure for myself, to see him in my own eyes. Because I see it all the time in the forums. People calling Shadow a liar and names, such as Crackhead. I wanted to make sure for myself if Crackhead had him figured out. Well, Crackhead is wrong. Shadow is not what he thinks he is.
Yes, we have. Or are we friends now? Maybe so, if I give you hints. You might catch on to me. And you are not a blonde, I had one of the trolls tell him that you are like blondes. But all of the things I have told him is not true. These are all things I personally do not believe about you.
You want to start? lol, it's not hard. To make a successful troll, you have to start by making a full profile with music and about that type of person. You have to try and make friends from PPL by introducing yourself as a newbie. When people relate to your trolls, you start to make new and different connections with others. They will not suspect anything and you have to change the way you act. Meaning, you have to make the character sound like a different way than you normally do. It's not hard to make a successful troll. But I will tell you this, if you need to know something. It's always best to make a troll to get the scoop out on anything and everything you need to know about someone. Like secrets and other things. It will work before you know it and you'll still have people clueless.
So I've noticed some changes in the forum. And you seem a little too disturbed by some of the people. And when Shadow gets on and posts, it seems that everyone just attacks. Have you started on any troll creations? Because I am willing to start you off if you haven't. Also, I'm just curious to know about what you see as your future? Just involving Shadow, are you looking at a great longtime friendship or much more? Because it seems like you two really have a great bond.
You're actually not such of a bad person as I assumed. I give you credit for standing up for yourself.
Because of how you treat others. It seems to me for a long while you've been listening to the wrong people. And you build up a ton of hatred which makes you feel like how you are today. And it's leading you to the point where you are kind of hurt. That you just want to get away from it all. Is this the reason why you've been having recent problems. Because you've been avoiding the true Mandy, the one that thinks positive and true to herself?
Or maybe it was that you have been avoiding and pushing that guy that had your back for the longest time? The change is for the better, I know it when I see it. I dont assume. Or is your problems far greater then I expect, possibly family issues?
I do know you very well and you already know who I am. Even if I am the troll as Tommy Gunn.
You prove a good point, but if I didnt know you. Then why would I take the time to do all of this trolling and then approach you to express what I saw? And I must rephrase my last statement, because I know you're not a bad person.
I will keep my mouth shut as I have done in the past. You dont have to worry about that. In fact, have you considered or looked at any of the possibilities that I might be a female under this disguise?? Here's a question, which female is in loe with Tommy on here? Answer solved, because I truely know how it's like and I completely understand what you are going through in life. I do care and thats why I did this.
Maybe so. Why do you think I ask all these questions? I'm not too sure and a little clueless myself. But, I have seen a lot of your posts on the forums. So, you have told everyone about you personally. And you do know that I'm not alone right? I hear it and I was concerned that I tried to help. Even if it made me have to change my image just a tad.
Okay, here's how it's played out. I am not the one that made the Shadow trolls or the Mandy troll. But, I do know who did it. And he is involved with a lot more of the trolls too as well as other people with him. I made a troll of your brother when he came online with your profile around the time I was arguing with Shadow. That was to make him a bit clueless, so that I couldnt lose my cover. Once I found out about the truth from Shadow. I knew he was a much better person than I realized in the past. I wanted to personally see it for myself if Crackhead and the rest of the crew had him figured out. They all became wrong and I still continue to not blow off my cover. After me and the rest figured Shadow. I decided to make a Tommy troll and tell you about it.
And please feel free to continue if you want. You are loved and cared, much more than what you think. I take Shadow for example, he looks at you as a true person. Not many people come around that often. There are a lot of men out there that use women for the wrong reasons. And to avoid becoming mentally and emotionally damaged, you always have to look on the bright side of things. You cant let it take over and ruin your life. Even family can be painful at times, but you wont live with them forever. You'll be out before you know it. And when you do, a lot of pressure will be off your sholders. You'll feel more relaxed and calm. But to get to the step, you have to find a path you want to take in life. Because it'll all get better in no time.
Well, you wasnt really suppose to know who I am. And this is the wonder of trolls. It's mysterious and unknown. But it can be used as a good thing though. I wouldnt troll for bad reasons like others do. And I'm still clueless about the whole porn site thing. I cant believe someone would actually do that to another. That is far beyond the limit, I can see why you've been so upset and pissed for a while about that. I would too.
But you only assume that it's him. Tommy dosent get on PPL as much as he use to and what does he have against you? Have you looked through all of the other possibilities that it might be someone else? Someone you may have pissed off and is holding a grudge?
Well, I'll let you know that it wasnt Tommy. I dont know who it could have been. But it was just a thing in the past and I believe it's probably not going to happen again. Because they would have tried to make another attempt while you're on here.
Shadow's online so I guess I'll mess with him a bit. Teehee
I'm back and still undercover!! Thanks for the birthday charm, I appreciate it a lot. I'm glad to see you and Shadow are friends better than ever. It's a new change and it's for the better. Because a true friend will always stick by your side no matter what and from what I have heard youve rejected him from being much more, am I right? That says a lot about him right there, because he still stays by your side even when he gets verbally punished the most. Plus in the long time future, you'll see things differently and know that you've made the right decision about making a great friendship like this. So, how are you feeling? I believe I have done all I could do as far as trolling. But I'm just curious to know exactly what do you see as your future?
My b-day went great, it couldn't have been better. It's good to hear that you and Shadow are becoming close friends. And that's one powerful friendship to be in. Usually these are the guys that are the worst, but he makes all the others look bad. It would be great if others were like him. You're a lucky one indeed. They dont come around that often, but he's there for you. And it's good to see.
So, how are things going with you? I dont seem to know you all that very well. Besides the things that Shadow has said, but I've never really got that introduction. But he does give a wonderful view and he just makes it feel like I already know you. So, if you wouldnt mind starting out. It would be great. You told me you've had a rough life and a lot has happened that you want to change but it all became too late in the end. If you could change anything, what could it be? And living in tough environments, how was it like? I mean, I just couldnt imagine it all. And me personally being in your shoes, I wouldnt know what to do and where to turn. Which direction is right from wrong, who to trust and everything else. Yeah, it's tough and I can just picture it the same way as Shadow can. But I'd like to hear from you.
Yeah, Shadow talks about you. If it wasnt for him, I probably wouldnt be talking to you about any of this right now. He made me realize that you are much more than what I had thought about you in the past. I didnt hate you or anything, but I see you so much differently now because of him. I saw you as little ms pretty that wanted attention and was more concerned with what other people thought about you. But, Shadow sure proved me wrong. About everything and all I was just trying to do was to see if other people thought of Shadow was true. It didnt even concern any about you, until he brought you in the subject. From then on, I started to care and see you as that person that he talks about.
Wow, that is really rough. It's best to probably ignore the past and move on for the better. And drinking could cause problems for you, I recommend to not drink at all. Maybe from time to time or on special occasions. When it's time to party with friends, try to avoid drinking. It's not worth it, because you want to live a better life dont ya? Keep your mind off things and always think positive. And dont give a fuck what others think, if they are being negative then fuck them. They mean nothing to you anyways. You know who your true friends are. You've got me and Shadow by your side perminately. Nothing is gonna change that away. Because it is all about you baby.
I think you really hurt Shadow's feeling this time. lol, nah. Shadow thinks the world of you, you couldnt even if you tried. All he wants is for you to be happy, because that's all that really matters to him. You two do have a really good bonding connection as friends. He does truely care about you and I have learned a lot. Not just about Shadow, but about much more. He truely has straightened my head and has knocked some sense into me as well. He's an honest, trusting, loyal friend and he'll always be by your side. Even through the times you dont think he is, but he is. He does love you with every once of his soul. Just know that, because it dosent matter to him who you turn out to be with. All that matters to him is if you have a happy life. He wants the best for you and he would take a bullet just for you.
Yeah, that's what I was trying to tell you. You're not going to hurt Shadow one bit. And he's not trying to get you to fall in love with him either, he's always by your side as a great friend. But sometimes friends with great connections end up being with each other, I'm not saying you two will. Nothing is going to change who he is as a person. Sometimes when he talks to you (and it happens to me a lot too) it seems that you are much older that what you actually are. I mean right now, it seems like I'm talking to a much older lady and in reality I'm like wow she's actually 16. You seem older as a person by your personality and how you truely are. Not talking about looks, looks have nothing to do with it. I dont want you to think of Shadow as what you believe he is, but just know that he is there for you as a friend. He tries to make you feel better as a person. You have had a rough life and now it's time to put all that negaitivity aside, all of those assholes that use you for the wrong reasons aside, and focus on what is more important in your life. Focus on yourself and if you are really having problems, just remember that he is always there for you and I am too.
I figured you would ask me that sometime. There's actually a reason why I'm not on there and my profile at this time. Some people have pissed me off and I am taking the time off from that, I hate all the PM's that I get from fucked up people and it is wasting my time. I will be back though, I'm just staying on here while it's safe for me. I dont want to get too fired up.
So, what exactly bothers you? I mean I think I can understand the same way how you feel about it. People say a lot of shit and call you names, then you call yourself names. And it's kind of weird in a way. But what really sets you off? And Shadow dosent like it when you call yourself bad names too, it kind of upsets him in a way. Because personally, I wouldnt want to be called a bitch and everything else. It's just not something you want to hear people say about you. Yeah, there are a lot of aspects I'd like to have from Shadow. I'd just love to see through his eyes and see how everything is in his life, like how everything plays out and adventure it for a while. That would be awesome! Sometimes I wish I could just trade places with you to get that same caring, respectful, loving, kind, good hearted soul that you get from him.
Just dont pay any attention to them. Me and Tommy are two different people, I think one way and he's his own person too. But I love him though. Sometimes it does aggravate me when I see people posting on the forums that talk shit. I hate it and it gets me frustrated just like you do. I know you just are here for fun and not for the wrong reasons. Dont let yourself get caught up in all that drama. People like to judge all the time and it can hurt at times. Shadow is strong though because he can handle it, he sinks it in and it just dosent effect him in any way.
Oh, well Shadow dosent know that. lol. I can see that, you're a very wonderful, sweet, loving lady. Nothing people say is going to change who you really are as a person. You say that I'm clever, but look at yourself. You're very clever! Nothing is going to change you, the road ahead may get a little tough but you have true friends that will help you through it.
haha, I love the sign you made for Tommy. That's great! So, how have things been with you? Having any problems with theboys lately? I hope not, let me know if you need to have a girl talk. I'll be the one to help.
That's great! I've had to get my phone number changed many times, so if it gets to a point that you have to change it then it might be a good idea to. Because there are better people in your life that are actually there for you, that's all that matters. The people that dont use you and always stay by your side, even through the rough times. Stay focused on yourself and just have a good time, dont worry about the assholes and bullshitters in this world. You're taking that right path now, you just have to get where you want to be. That's what Shadow wants and I as well.
Oh, you saw that? lol, yeah I was just joking around. You know I was just looking through my msgs from some of my trolls and found the many great posts of Shadow talking about you. It's just so sweet to see. And I hope you dont get mad in any way if I bring back this up too, but remember that PPL list he made for people and he had "Shadow and Mandy=Taylor Swift babies." Shadow was just kidding around, he truely didnt mean that. But I thought that was so cute, I was cracking up laughing when you asked him about it and he told you that if you two were together, you two would make those babies. But in all serious, this isnt truely how he feels about you. He dosent see you as an object of sex, but as how many guys should truely see you as. I asked him what women would he prefer to be with and what was he looking for. He said and I quote "I'd like to be with someone that is unique. Someone that's creative, imaginative, inspired, artistic, inventive, resourceful, ingenious, innovative, and productive. I need someone that is beautiful on the inside and can get things doen she she wants them to. Someone that can think outside of the box and nows what is right. If only women could be more like Mandy, then everything would be perfect. There could never be any like Mandy, she is the reason of what makes a true female. Nothing else even matters, she will always count the most." Okay, this isnt everything Shadow says. But, from everything he says is just golden. I couldnt tell you how many times I've read them and just about broke down crying. lol. He's a friend that's truely looking out for you and he thinks the world for you.
Yeah I do. I'm not sure if he told you goodbye or not, but he wont be on any this week. He's on a vacation trip to Florida. He was rushing because he was helping his mom with a make-up party and then he had to leave out, so he probably couldnt tell you. But he has you in his heart and he'll be back before we know it.
Oh and I hope you're doing very well too. Have you been having a good weekend so far? Hopefully nobody has been driving you insane. It wouldnt be a good thing if you felt bad. Well, have a good night/early morning!
Yeah, I hope things work out. I know it sucks to be in that spot like you're in right now. My weekend is going great, just a lot on my mind and stuff. lol. Sometimes if I get too much crammed into my mind, it just over powers me. I need to relax and take a rest for a while. It's just life and how we live in it, I guess.
I had to cut out a lot of the other things Shadow said. I know you two are just friends and just hearing a lot of the things he said might make you fall in love. haha, I kid. But, these are things I'd love to hear about myself too and I thought I'd just share some of what he said to you. My day hasnt been going to well. Just stress and different shit in my life. Same old bullshit, hopefully yours is going well. I know you've been having trouble with your friend. And I know you do care about her and is there for her when she needs you. You have to think of a way to snap out of what she sees in this guy. I know Shadow would, haha. He looks at life first hand and shares his knowledge with the right choice of words and it works. Maybe she wants to live that life and you'll have to respect her decision. It is tough, because you're there for her to help. But when you try to help, it dosent seem to work. I get like that too sometimes.
Aww, that's sweet. My girl is doing great, it's just a wonderful experience when you get a child. It's like when you get it, it hits to you. That you are getting older and becoming a parent. Like it's a big step into life and it just hits you at the moment. Past experiences are things I usually want to block and censor out. But, since you asked I'll tell. Well, life gets fucked up at times. Mostly because people stab you in the back and so on. I grew up with a family that didnt care and would talk shit and spit in your face. People that abuse and I dealt with so much torture. Talk about a nightmare, I was living in it. That's why I dont care about most men at all, only to the ones I have great conections with and the ones I see that actually are truely wonderful people. I've been burnt by some people and many drugs thrown up to my face. A lot of aggression, I really dont want to dig into that hole. But things eventually pick up to where I wanted them. Just have to make the best of it and move on. Anything else you need to know, I'll talk about it. It's no problem and I'm glad you asked.
It's all okay. No probem at all. Yeah, it all takes time to get to where you want to be. Sometimes I just wish I had someone there for me in my past. Nobody has ever really been there for me when I truely needed to to be. It sucks to live in that environment. People see you as just another pretty face and use you. Shit like that, I could probably go on and on. I mean I've learned a lot as I got older, I know what to avoid and what to look forward to. I progress and grow everyday. And I'm happy to see that change and develop stronger than who I was. I never knew what was right, I was the sucker that got involved with the wrong.
Oh and btw, nice pic!! haha, one thing Shadow said. "Mandy always had the best pics. She makes many models look bad, she has outstanding talent at photography. Nobody could duplicate that." Lol
I guess it's probably a good thing Shaddy isnt on here. lol, I've decided to call him Shaddy now. A little short for Shadow, because he's my Shaddy. lol. But as I was saying. One thing that really gets him pissed off is when people talk bad about you. Um, he's not as "nice" as many think. But, he is to the people that mean the most to him. He can be a little goofy at times, but he is mainly the leader of a pack as I should say. The reason why his gf loved him so much wasnt because he was a caring and loving guy. It was because he was just like her, the so called "bad asses." lol, it's not a bad thing though. He does what he wants and when he wants to do it. With his gf, he didnt care about sex. He made a great connection that no other guy can do. He makes a relationship seem like perfect. How do I know this you ask? I was talking to her not too long ago. haha. She told me so much about him in person. Some things that just might make you fall in love, lol. It's so cute though!! God damn, now I'm starting to miss him.
When Suffery or whatever his name is said "like omfg mandy your pictures are like horrible." Shadow would have been mad about that one. lol. That's why I said it's probably not a good thing if he's not here right now. I met her off of a site Shadow gave me to listen to some newq music I'm interested in. He also gave me a link to a site to get that Swine shirt he has on his pic. I'm thinking about getting Tommy that. lol. Well, I met her on there are she gave me her number because it was a lot easier to talk that way. Well, we ended up talking. But Shadow cant know about this though. And I couldnt believe I found her on there, because she started talking about her ex and I matched it up and knew it had to be him. And it was. Wow! What a day, haha.
Yeah, I like his name. That's sweet. Yeah, I know Tommy would like it too. Most of everything that's really good to get are off the internet and concerts. I'm going to have to start looking for more.
Why do you hate it there? You are just stuck in Texas, there's a lot better out there for you. You just have to go out to places and check them out. I'm sure you'll be confortable somewhere else. UK is awesome and yeah, I'm back. But there's much better than here too.
Yeah, I wouldnt think Texas would be the place for me. There are huge spiders and weird creatures down there right? That's what I was told. And the weather isnt that great either. There's much better out there than Texas. I wouldnt live in Cali either, because the cost is so much on everything down there. I'd like to explore to check more out if I could. It would be nice.
So, I just curious to know what type of lady do you see yourself as? Pushy, calm, classy?? I sorry if I'm bugging you in any way. But if you dont mind, tell me about yourself and what do you think of yourself.
I'm sorry to hear that. I know it can be rough, I've been through it too. I was thinkng of some of the things Shadows ex said. And I think Shadow was a really good connection with his mom. Because of the way he treats women. She told me that they have never fought or argued and after he rejects her they still become friends. She was just too fucked up on pills and drugs, she would even get help. And I dont blame Shadow one bit. He dosent want to be there when she dies right in front of him. He just dosent see her as much as he use to. I can see why he made a great connection with you too. Well, I hope things get better in the end. You are leading up to a great wonderful path into life. You just have to stick with it and go forward.
I'm not saying he's a mama's boy. Mama's boys are just too nice and such. Shadow is a loving caring type of guy, but he's also kind of a troublemaker in a way. lol. He thinks outside of the box and can be a very sweet romantic at times too. I think I have learned a lot of what who he is. He's a really sweet guy and likes to share his knowledge with others. I really like him for who he is, he makes others look bad compared to him. I think I need to go make some clones of him for me to keep. lol
From what I've heard, Shadow will be coming back on Thursday. So, it's a lot sooner than I expected but still quite some time away. A little too far away for me, lol. Just letting you know.
Awww, I saw the thread you made of Shadow. I miss him too. I'm sure he misses you just as much. I saw some pictures of his ex too and she is very pretty. She's 5'4 with bright blonde hair down to her sholders. She actually looks very gorgeous. Bright brown eyes, a nice face and body. She's kind of like the huggable type in a way. lol. She dosent look bad for being a drughead and having genital warts. When you look at her and talk with, you wouldnt see that she is that type.
Aww, that was so sweet of you to make that thread. Shadow did tell me one time that you are and will always be better than what his ex could ever be. Actually he says you are better than what any lady out there could be. He says some of the sweetest things about you and I loved it everytime he sticks up for you too. I'll be out for a while, I'm going out and doing some girly things. lol, I hope you're having a good time. I'll let you know how things turn out.
haha, you are such a little sucker for those "hot" guys arent ya? I learned my lesson from that one. So, I just curious. What would happen if Shaddy got hurt one day or something? How does he actually make you feel and would it mean something to you? I'm not saying it'll happen, but anything could happen to anyone at any time. So, lets just say something just happened.
Aww, that's so sweet. It is good to hear that you care about him as much as he does to you. He's a little daredevil but he finds ways out of everything. So, I highly doubt anything bad will happen. Shadow thinks the world of you and it's so good to see somebody that stands for their word and stands by your side.
I can tell you do. You made two threads of him. And that's really sweet of you to do that. I already knew the answer to that question I asked, I wanted to see what you would say. lol. So, how are things going with you? Any problems lately?
I was just messing with her. lol. I'm doing great so far at least. I'm not really as bad as I was lately. So, that's good. Just listening to some new music and such. Everything has been a blast.
I was thinking about that, I will do so once he gets back. :)
Not a bad idea, I think I should deserve some Shadow love as much as you're getting. lol
Yes you do deserve it!! You're not the only one that was treating him like shit, there were times when I was too. Take a look at yourself now, all that negativity has been gone off your sholders. Everything you thought about yourself in the past is changing into something positive. Just think if I didnt do this and came over to you to tell you the things I'm saying right now. Where do you think you you would be at this time? You are growing beautifully and you continue to shine brighter each and every day. There may be shit still going through your head, but what would you feel like if you still continued to treat him like shit? If you didnt have that good friend that stays by your side and defends you no matter at what cost.
haha, even better news! Shadow will be back tomorrow!! But then he'll be leaving again on Thursday through the weekend until Monday. Because he's going to Pennsylvania, so he'll be back on here in the forum tomorrow. ;) But, then another long wait again afterwards. lol
His ex. They are still really good friends after they broke up and she told me she'll keep me updated.
Hopefully he'll be on. If not, then we'll have to wait until Monday. It depends if he wont be too busy when he gets back. lol.
Oh and she also said that he talks about you too. He always tells her how wonderful you are and stuff. That you are so much better than all of his other friends, he told her that she needs to take notes and lessons from you because nothing could ever get any better than you as a person. And he feels really bad that he didnt have the time to get back on and tell you that he was leaving.

I thought it was really cute too. It's so sweet. :)
Dont get too happy. lol, I kid. He's true to his word and I'm sure he'll send you a msg tomorrow telling you about it. Hopefully he'll be back on, we will see. haha, I would love to be in Florida right now.
Talk to Shadow any? I havent seen the forum any so I wouldnt know if sent a PM or if you've talked.
Nevermind, I see it all. So, did you end up getting Shadow's number? Hope you had a great day today too.
So, what have you been up to? You should be fine right now, you got the chance to talk to Shadow. Ad you probably have those puppy dog eyes right now. haha, I'm kidding. It's just so sweet to see you two from a bad past to being best friends to the end. And this is a best friend to really keep, I wouldnt let him go for nothing. You two share a great bonding connection and that's what friends are all about. Aww, Mandy. You're such a lucky one!!
One thing you can tell from Shadow is that he writes his smiles like this. =) And I noticed that Shadow's name is still taken. The one that he had with the symbols. I'm sure he'll be back to explain things about the profile. I know the mods didnt do it. There's no way he's leaving PPL but he was a bit worried that you might leave him for that new forum you was talking about and because of these assholes on this site.
So, Mandy Mandy. How are things going for you? Any trouble with the guys lately? How are things with you and Shadow? For the better I hope.
Well, I love the Tommy sign but Tommy truely does like you. He's just who he is, he talks to everyone like that. Including me, but if you look at him you'll know that it's his way of saying something nice. I know it's kinda weird in a way. lol. And for Shadow, there are actually many things I like for him. But for some I'll start by saying. Shadow is his own person, there couldnt ever be another guy like him. Normally when a guy is single and they see somebody as hot as Megan Fox asking him to go out, they would in a heartbeat. But not Shadow, he dosent look at women like that, they will try and use their sex appeal and get men like him. But Shadow is plain hard to get. Dating for men is just different then women. Shadow has his own unique style of dating. He actually makes the lady feel really confortable and is an absolute gentleman towards everything he does. This is why Shadow isnt desperate and he feels that special one female should deserve to have what he gives out. This is what makes Shadow different and makes him his own person. That is so sweet he is being there for you, I knew he would like he has done. I've noticed the forums too and that's really sweet of you. You are very special as Shadow says you are and things can only get better from here on.
Aw, I saw Shadow's thread before he deleted it. Dersh is such an asshole. I can tell Shadow's feelings were hurt from it too. Aw, now I'm wanting to go over to him. Damn it, I hate when people do that.
Yeah, I told you that it's probably not a good thing when he got back on the forums. lol. I mean I know he knows that you are kidding around most of the time by talking to others on here about sexual things and stuff like that. Hmm, this is just a little weird to me dont get me wrong. People all joke around with others but it seems like you dont play along when it comes down with something that involves Shadow. Are you truely falling in love with him and you dont want others to know? Yeah, I dont blame you if you are. Personally if I was in your shoes, I'd go or it. I wouldnt give a shit about everyone else. I'm just curious to know, I dont want to be the one to break this friendship just because I mentioned this. I wouldnt give Shadow up for anything. We can keep this between us as girls.
Okay, this just really gets to me. Haha, I'm sorry but it's just too cute!! Next time I get to the US, I am so hooking you two up. And you cant deny it Mandy. You have to at least try and see how it goes. Dont be surprised if I'm a third wheel with you two too. lol. Hey, I just want to do a little experiment on this. It wouldnt hurt any just to try.
Aw, I thought maybe you had something for him. I dont see how you can stand like that. I'd be the girl to fall in love with him in a heartbeat if he did this to me. This is the guy I've always wanted in the past. I mean understand where you arecoming from and I wouldnt even give a fuck what others thought on the forum. You stick up for him right? And you do care and love him as a friend, so it wouldnt hurt if you did a litlle teasing huh? haha, I kid. Dont tease him, but you could play along with it tho. I wish I was in your shoes, I want to be younger and have what you are having. You are really awesome Mandy!! Like I have said a thousand times, you have Shadow by your side to the end. This is something you couldnt ever replace.
I do send him PM's. This is what I was trying to tell you Mandy, dont get caught up into this. I know you really care and love Shadow as a friend. You two have a great bonding connection. Why do you think I did this in the first place if I didnt believe in Shadow and you becoming the best of friends? Shadow dosent like it when you get worked up andupset over all this bullshit. Yeah, it's good that you stick up for him in the forums. But sending him a PM about it is even better than to talk to a bunch of fuckups that cant get it through their thick skull. Because if you start listening to what other people say, it's just going to get into your mind and then you'll probably end up hating him again. And after all what Shadow has done, he shouldnt deserve that. He loves you Mandy, as a really close friend. I keep a low profile but I will tell Shadow personally everything how I feel.
And Shadow sees something in you that he dosent see in others. This is what makes things more special. Come on you have to admit that Shadow is so much different than any guy out there. It makes you wonder why cant all men be like him. I'm just saying. I already know how much he means to you, I can see it deep in your heart. You have a place for him in there. If he was in danger, you would sacrifice yourself to save him. He would do the same for you too. This is a guy that has no sexual desires or intentions of you. He looks at you for who you are. I respect Shadow so much for everything he does. And now guess what? He says he'll be out for a month. That's fucking long in my book. lol
What are you talking about? Did you see the "Black Water Rising" thread. I do reply to him. And plus when I'm the forum, he dosent talk to me often. If he does then I must have missed it.
Dont you listen to them Mandy. That troll is obviously jealous that you and Shadow have a great connection as freinds. He was so trying to make you hate Shadow. And you stay by your word. No matter how much people talk bad shit about Shadow, you can see past it.
Here’s where it gets FUCKED up.

haha, please. I am the Obvious troll Number 2. And I am not Erin. Shadow is right, I'm sorry to break it to you. Oh and number 1 is another good friend of mine. You are a class A sucker and I knew I shouldnt have talked about Shadow as much as I did. Do you know why I keep asking you if you are actaully falling in love with him? Because I had to make sure you wasnt falling in love with his pathetic ass. You know what I love, the fact that you are starting to hate Shadow all over again. According to my plans, this is what I wanted to see. haha, I am very clever as he stated. I know Shadow was going to fall back in love with you and gets hurt the same way Ash did to him n the past. Shadow is fucking weak and I'm glad you arent talking to him and sticking up for him anymore. haha, I love to break his pathetic heart so much, I had to play this little game. As I knew exactly this would come to be. Mandy, you are such a fool. Maybe Shadow was the only guy that actually sees something in you for real. But you are fucked up, Shadow wont mean anything to you anymore. I'm sure Shadow will be gone after this attempt of failure for him. I just love to mess with emotions!! This is fucking great!! Oh and btw, everything I said about Shadow is all true. Way to go for breaking him into pieces for me. That just means I wont have to actually try anymore. Oh and also, dont even think about going back and telling Shadow that you are sorry and it wont happen again. Because you know what, I'll make sure Shadow dosent fall for you again. How do I know this? I can make anything happen. Aw poor Shadow. Now it's time for the real fun to begin. Oh and I'm really sorry I'm such an asshole. There is a reason for all this. And it's called the last time I will see Shadow in PPL, so will you!!
Aw and Shadow is telling me that you hate him again. Thanks a lot Mandy, it means I dont have to try to get you to again. Dont even think about messaging him, I'll be sure he never reads them. And I'll be sure he will never love and care about you again. Even though that is fucking HARD AS HELL to do with him. So maybe you did get me right there. I didnt fuckin think about that. Oh well, it dosent matter. I can think of many other ways to do something. Because you are a fucking sucker for everything anyways. I asked Shadow what you said to him and I laughed my ass off. OMG, you are so fucking blind to see this guy. Okay, the only guy that truely sees you as a person and now he is so heartbroken it's not funny. Well actually it is funny as hell. Making Shadow tear up is what I do best.
Okay okay, one last msg for you and I am out of your life forever, No more after this one. I am litterally looking at you with these sadistic and sarcastic eyes. I am telling you that the ONLY really person that cares and is there for you is Shadow. The only real person that makes you feel good everyday is Shadow. The guy that could have been the best husband for you is Shadow. (I'm not saying it would have happened because my true plan was to wait for you to fall for him and then ruin you two.) God damn. haha, I am so cruel. I made Shadow talk to Erin's real profile and tell her that he wants to be good friends with her. Right after that I made a fake profile of her that looks just like it was her. So, I played her character and fooled Shadow into thinking it was her talking to him. haha, I'm as evil as it comes because it gets better than that. I'm sorry but okay. I had o do it. I broke yours and Shadows heart in one day. He was that only only guy that actually saw you. I hate to say it, but you are fucking pathetic as they come. I mean seriously, you cant get far anywhere and why do I hate you, you ask? I have reasons just as I have reasons to hate Shadow's guts.
I dont want you to stop coming. Okay, okay. I am such a fucking asshole and the worst ever right now. I am starting to kind of feel like so horrible in the first place. It is actually depressing and it is looking bad than how I actually planned it. WOW, I am in shock about that. I wouldnt have done that to you and Shadow for real. It actually wasnt a plan. But the whole idea of me being Erin is so false because I dont want you to feel bad about it. I chose to play as Erin for you to connect and seem comfortable about talking to a figure such as that. You are not suppose to know my true identity remember? I am still the master of trolls and yes I did come to you to tell you Shadow is there for you and is def a one of a kind. This is mainly it Mandy. Oh and yeah about me fuckin with you in the forums. Just forget about that shit and forget about me. Yeah, what I want you to do is go back to Shadow and tell him. He is truely broken right now and I am getting tired of seeing him like that. He is fucking up my trolls by talking to them. Me, personally? Well, I just wanted to have a little fun here. PPL seems to be a drag, but you actually do have something going for you. I dont ever wat to take something like that away from you. Even if it means something SO imporatant to you.
Dont listen to a god damn thing I'm saying right now. I was the one that came over and told you about the true Shadow. Yes I have taken the time to find who he is. Yes, I can be an asshole because it is in my jeans. But you cant stay mad at him since he truely has nothing to blame for. Look back through and you'll know exactly why Shadow continues to stay with you. Dont get this way Mandy, you wasnt really suppose to know that I'm not really Erin. You wasnt suppose to find out anything because I want you to focus on yourself.
So, you care what I think more than Shadow? First off i dont blame you becasue if it wasnt for me, you wouldnt have came over to him. And second, do you believe that about yourself? I mean come on, Shadow is trying to get you a job making some really great money and trying to get you into a solid path into life. That's great! But are you a waste? Are you only good for sex? Nope. I was fuckin with ya. You're not at all. You may have good looks, you may act like a little goofy online. But you do mean much more than what I was saying to you in the forum. I dont hate you one bit. You shouldnt be hurt any at all from this. The reason why you care, because I did show you someone that is willing to treat and respect how you deserve to be treated and respected. If I didnt see that in Shadow, I would have never came over to you in the first place. This is no game, this is what it is.
Blah, blah, blah. I didnt hurt you Mandy. How does this hurt you? In what way does this affect who you are? I said this little part of today was a game. But everything I have done for you was not a game. I dont want you hurt, I dont want Shadow hurt either. You would have never known that the troll number 2 was all me if you kept bringing up Erin into all this. And going over to her asking her about all this. So, I found out I fucked up big time and I did hurt Shadow and you for real. I do care about you two. You wanted a solid answer, this is what you are getting. Why did I send you the msgs explaining all that? That's not truely how I feel about the situation. But if it's the only way for you to understand and not hate Shadow because of this. I had to do it. I did it to protect and not break up that friendship by making myself look like a fucked up asshole that ruins lives. I had to make you see that Shadow isnt the one to blame but it is me that is guilty behind it all. This is my reasoning. You are not really good for sex, you cant be brought down. Do not cry anymore!!!
Oh you want to know why? You want to know the real truth. Please Mandy, dont cry after you hear this. But... I didnt fucking care about you. At all, I didnt do any of this FOR YOU. I was fucking around with Shadow and you was brought up most of the time. Because he was the one that cared about you for real. I didnt give a fuck, until he actually really did made me realize something about you. Yes, it was Shadow that knocked some sense into my head and made you actually a somebody. Now as Shadow is kind of fading from me and I'm actually thinking on my own. This isnt me, what the fuck was i thinking? The things I did said about you as the troll are things I feel about you, becasue I dont give a flying fuck about you. At all, for real. This is how I feel, but as I was playing as Erin I had to make you actually see that I was on your side. Yes, I am a complete asshole. This is just who I am. Now think for a minute. I'm not worth anything to you and never was anything to you. Leave it at that. I dont care anymore. Oh and if you actually think this is a huge loss to you, you are so wrong.This is not a loss. You have something going for you, just stick with it and move on.
Sounds like a good plan. But the question is. What would you do without me? You do love me. Do you know how I can tell? Because you have true feelings that make you cry over this. You are scared of losing that person that is there for you in your life. You are afraid of losing something important. You are scared of trusting people and not really wanting to connect with anyone. I can tell. I cant be the one to hurt you, I dont mean anything to you. But are you looking at Shadow? Is this the reason why you feel hurt, because you dont want to lose that person in your life? You know Shadow just as well as I know him. We've been talking about him most of this time. We have shared a large amount of feelings and it was all reflecting around him. Is this the reason? It cant be me, I have nothing to do with any of this. And there is no reason for you to cry over me. Becasue my work here is done. I am moving on, I came back time and time just to see all the things you and Shadow were up to. I knew it was going to be really sweet to listen to and it surprises me everyday when I get on here and see it. We know exactly what kind of person he is, I cant say much more about it. Because in real life, I dont exist to you. I am a person behind these trolls that just talks out of my teeth. You already have one person for you, that's all you'll ever need. So, I guess I will talk to you in the forums or something. haha, and you know what. You should be thanking me for all this. You shouldnt be getting because I did you a favor.
It's okay dear. I'll make sure you get plenty of time with my anaconda while Shadow is tied up in a chair watching us make love.
You know what? I don't know who you really are but for some fucked up reason i care what you think about me? Please, you are looking through trying to figure out could this be. You are not looking through people from the late past. Like I said, I cant tell you. And I have reasons why I did. I did it because it was the right thing to do. I did because I'm ready to see this true friendship develop. I did this because I'm tired of not moving forward. I did this for you and made you understand Shadow for who he is. Like I said you would have never knew that troll on the forum was me if Erin didnt get brought into this. And troll number 1 feels the same way. I did this and now all you have to do is make it last forever. You have to look things in a positive way and think what is best for you. Dont worry about me, dont worry about the people that put you down. Shadow actually did make me learn something which still leads me back over to you. DON'T LET GO OF HIM. I REPEAT, DON'T. You have a wonderful thing and I can see you are much happier when you talk and when he's around. As for me, well I have mental problems and I need to go hide under my pillow.
"your unknown brother has done way more than you fucking know darling. He prentended to be someone i cared about just to find out what shit bothers me. he gained my trust so i would tell him, and guess fucking what, i did. Now get fucked." You logic makes no sense. What does it fucking matter to you to know who the fuck I am? I was good friends with you and Shadow in the past. This is all you need to know. Go through your list of names and you'll find out who I am. You shouldnt have even cared about me or what I even said. Now get over it. You are the one that wanted more info and continues to talk to me.
HAHA, the ONLY person? Really? I was always the one that was posting with you in the "I Win" Crackhead thread? Okay, I have said enough. That gives you a hint. Because really, you dont need to know who I am. And I had Shadow as my favs because we would talk a lot on here. Plus he was really cool to me. Even as I have learned even more about him.
cough cough. What? I saw Erin as the perfect opportunity. I saw that Erin was out for a long while from the forum. I knew she would return eventually. So, when she did I had to try and make Shadow become friends with Erin. So when they became friends, I could play it off by Shadow telkling you that Erin is a good friend to him. I told Shadow by a troll that he was hurting Erin's feelings and he needs to send her a message to become friends. After he did it, I made the Erin troll and trolled the hell out of Shadow with her. But my plan failed as me pulling it off because you can see past everything for some reason.:
HAHA, prove it? How can I prove it if I delted my profile a long while back. Why do you think I hide behind trolls now? If you dont believe me, go check for yourself in that thread.
You are still talking to me because your heart wants to. And I have listened to you, I do know who you are. I do know people get to you, that's why you went off on Kath. Okay, okay. So, I made the mistake of saying that to you. It dosent mean you are what I said. You have to blame this on Lamb, he was the one that got me the idea of doing this.
I did talk to only swimmerchick. Then I realized this was a waste and I have to try something new. You want to know how I knew about Erin? I saw Erin's comment posted on his picture. "That shirt is cool, where can I get Tommy one?" That is what she said. So, I did my research and found out that Shadow did give her a link in a PM. And how did I find out about the burns and about Erin? I did my research and asked a certain somebody that knows things. But, this person has also deleted their account. People deleting their accounts left and right. People dont give a fuck about PPL anymore. There is no point in keeping mine either. I realized I was too bored and shit so I had to make this all come together before I actually left for good.
Oh yeah and baby. Dont be surprised if I made my big return here in PPL with a new account.
Whatever you say. Oh and please dont try and fall in love with me. I knew I shouldnt have told you any of this. I am probably making you wet your panties right now. But you just have to get your mind off me.
Okay, so now which is it? I'm obsessed in Shadow and in love with you? haha, you're a funny chick! Oh please Mandy, come over to me and bring Shadow with you so I can love on the both of ya. haha

HAHA, very funny!! Jealous of you, you've got nothing I want. And Shadow? Hell no!! I am not gay. Now you are really making myself question if this is true. haha, not!!
Now, you are the one that is crazy. I do not have a crush on him. He dosent mean anything to me. I just wish Shadow was never born so then I wouldnt have done any of this. Or at least never came to PPL.
I know I didnt and you keep bringing this up on me. And I do like Shadow. He never did anything bad to me. Everything I told you about Shadow was how I really see him as. But it dosent mean I'm in "love" with him. And I'm not obsessed either. He was a good friend to me. That's why I noticed great things about him.
You are sick!! I'd rather bang you. Maybe Shadow is too blind to see your beautiful sexy body and great looks. But I can see clearly. Now you are getting me horny, you play around too damn much
haha, good one!! That wasnt me that said that. It was "Erin!!" So, blah to you. And disgusting? haha, you would so enjoy it!
So, really sweet and ugly? If that's what you mean by gross. You know, if I was actually a girl I would be one of those chicks that gets turned on by his type. And plus I know you are thinking he is probably just so adorable. You dont want to admit it. I'm sure Shadow would show you a great time, you just choose not to give people a chance. You kind have like some barrier around your skull that you just cant see that in him.
You dont have to find him attractive to be his lovaaaa!! haha, no but really. That's what you need anyways. That friend that stays by your side in the end. Believe me, it'll get tough along the way. Life always does. And plus at least you have a sugar daddy!! ;) haha.
haha, hmm umm. Every girl needs one. I'm kidding. Time to get Mandy a new pair of shoes Shadow!! haha, he cares about you so he'll help if you ever need him.
Good girl!! You are such a keeper! Can I keep you for a while? I promise I'll bring you back. I the type that loves money too much and would do anything for it. At least you actually have a heart.
No, I'm being for real. It's not often that you see women out there that are blind against the money. You are a great person. And yeah many women do use men for the wrong reasons too. Well, the successful men at least. Nobody wants a dropdead loser. But it's good to see that you are true to yourself.
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i wouldnt even hug him."
I thought it was funny you said this. So, I guess you dont hug your brothers then. haha, you are such an evil chica.
Well since I'm so obsessed in Shadow. I need to know what he tastes, smells, and feels like. What to be my test subject? haha. Okay, okay. And yes you are evil, you tease so many people on here. "You love black people" and all this other stuff. haha, you are so funny too.
See what I mean by evil! You are not right at all. Your teasing is making people like me get so jealous and die to get something so precious as you. I can see little horns growing out on you right now.
Honestly. Was I a pretty good Erin or what? I kind of figured you would have a better connection with a female character telling you this than a male.

Woah, this is how you really feel? So now does this mean you are against Shadow? Hey, I came to you to see people for who they are. I really felt bad for Shadow, I will admit it. How do you think he feels? Are you even talking to him anymore? I havent heard anything, I think you said something so he wont talk to any of my trolls. What does it even matter what other people think of you? They all dont mean shit to you. Manipulating you? Haha, what you cant see this for yourself? You cant see that he's there for you? So fucking what if I like Shadow, he's got a good heart and it's nice talking to him. That's why I had him in my favs, that's why he was the badass guy I looked up to. You always reject him as a friend and treat him like shit, I'm sick of it.
And this is what makes me different than him too. I'm not like Shadow in any way. I have a different style, I am a different person. I came over to you as unknown and told you about this. I wanted to make sure you stand on your word because you have a tendency of turning around on people for no reason. I may be like most other men, I dont care. This is who I am.
Okay, fine then. I'll leave you alone.
Will you shut up? You are the one that wont leave me alone now goodbye!!
Main reason why you are mad right now is because Shadow isnt talking to you anymore I bet. haha, it's what you get anyways stupid bitch. I'm glad I rip apart two people. And you know what, you always make me seem a little sad for you. But in reality, I mean every word I said as troll number 2 about you. I dont mean to say this but everything you told me about yourself just made me realize how fucked up you really are and you dont deserve to have anyone special that can take care of you in your life. Have fun being alone your whole life with no one that actually cares about you.
You dont get it do you? I do like you a lot. I knew you was going to know who I was, because I was going to tell you. I couldnt play Erin off that long, you'll start to wonder why she wont talk to you on her profile. Manipulating you? Ask yourself this, is it for the better? Stop drinking and fucking up you life and get the picture. I saw a true person and introduced him to you. I did you a favor because I love you too. I want Shadow to be that guy that will help for the better. I want you and Shadow to be together, I wanted to see that next happy ending. I made a connection with you in the past. Stop worrying about yourself and take chances. Because if you dont take chances, it will fuck you up for the rest of your life and you'll look back and say that you should have made it different. You will come back to me and say that I was right the whole entire time. Shadow dosent even know how fucked up your life was. You didnt even tell him, because when I talked to him about it and compared it to what you told me. Shadow has no clue how it was. Because you dont take a chance with him. You cant see that he is there for you. And I am there for you too, you dont realize this. Shadow is starting to miss you and he loves you. Dont look and say this is effecting you, it is to him to. If you turn away from him, you are crushing a heart. You are crushing everything that he cares about. I can tell you never got his number, so you pretty much lied to me that you was going to get it. I do care about you and I want what Shadow wants about you too.
Well, tell me why. I came over to you. You do know that right? Let me help you as that friend too. You are putting people down in your life. Just listen to me for just a second. I know I have been a fucking awful bastard. Now let's put all the pathetic games behind and get serious Mandy. I am dead serious when I'm telling you this. You dont know what it feels like when you lose everything. Take that step forward, I have taken it. Now come with me and take it too. This is what makes us stronger as people.
See, look Mandy. This is why I care. I hate to be the fucked up guy that put both you and Shadow down like this. You have nothing going for you right now, so go for something new. I have done this too. You actually do have people on here that care so much and want you to be in a better place. Watching you makes everything miserable and you dont want to live in that life. This is what fucks you up, going back to your ex? What is wrong with you Mandy? Seriously! This is wrong and you know it is. You keep trying to find some way out of this, but you are choosing the wrong path to take.
And you know I'm right Mandy. Listen to somebody that actually knows what he is talking about. You want to live a better life, this is how you are going to do it. Stop worrying and stressing about shit and make something new, make achange and get your little ass out of Texas for a while. Take a chance and do something new, you can not live like this.
I'll tell you what. Go and tell Shadow everything that has been going on in your life. Everything that you have told me. He is looking out for you. You told me he is trying to get you a better job. This is the guy you need in your life. He wont ever look at you in the wrong way, he'll never argue or fight with you. Trust me on this. Just do this one thing. Open up and let the true people that love you come in. I'm telling you this! It will help for the better. If Shadow can get you in the right path, then you can take care of the rest. You can FINALLY be free and do things on your own. Get to know Shadow better, because I'm sure you dont know half the story of him as a person. Make a better friendship of someone that actually cares. Because if I right now didnt say anything to you about him and fucked this up like this. You know you would still be talking and defending him in the forum. You are slacking on this friendship and letting it slip away. Do you want that? This is helping you Mandy. It isnt about Shadow, this is about you!
Yeah, I know. And I'm sorry. I have made many mistakes in my life, I looked back at them and realized what the hell I was saying. You do mean something Mandy. I dont want you to blow this away. I want you to feel comfortable and happy. I love you too and this is why I have to at least try to make this better. I dont want to look at myself as a failure for not trying. Not after all this I have done for you. I dont want to make it a waste. You have opened up to me and let me view your world. You dont deserve this at all. And I really hate to see you making false moves. It's obvious you are looking for easy ways out. This is why you tried to get back with your ex. You are looking to take the wrong choices. I bet if he played along and accepted you back to him, he would have made you have sex with him and you would have done it. This is bringing up a part of the past Mandy isnt it? This is the Mandy that you looked at and realized you fucked up and made the wrong choices and decisions. I feel a connection with you, I do care about you. This is why I am still trying my best for you to understand this and try something new. But that's why it is a little risky. This is what life is all about. Take the challenge and tell me this. Do you care about yourself? Do you want to feel happy? Are you willing to take risky chances that are going to be for the better of yourself? You are in Texas because of your brother. You wont be happy there though. As you get your life going in the right direction, then you can go back and see your brother. Your brother will be so happy for you, this is what you want. This is what you need for yourself. You need to step up and tell yourself "I am Mandy, I am strong and proud of who I am." You will never get yourself to be this way if you dont try. It's time to do this, it's time to show yourself that you can do things. It's time to let people that do care, step into your life and help you. You can get on your feet easily. You do know that friends can be roommates right? You dont have to be a lover just to be with the guy that is willing to accept you in his life to help you get on your feet. You'll be ready in no time. I'm saying make the choice and take this chance. I know how it can be without people that are there for you. It isnt easy! How did Shadow do it own his own? He didnt, he had people to get him where he needs to be too. It's not a walk in the park. Do what is right for Mandy. Because I want to see that from you.
The reason you did all this was because of the things I told you. I made you so upset that you had to turn over to what you thought as going to be best for you. Turns out it wasnt the right move and you shouldnt have taken it. I'm not entirely sure, but I think the you have pushed Shadow completely out of your life too. This is not good and I have gave you my reasons why it's not. So, let's say you decide to follow what I said. You took that path that I want you to take. What happens if I'm wrong and you got hurt or something? You wouldnt be, trust me on this one. I will give you my full guarantee that it will all work out for you. So, dont look past this opportunity. I'm telling you, you wont regret any of it.
So, what do are planning? Is there anything I can help with? Or are you leaving me cold here?
I take it you are not listening to anything I say and you are now just acting goofy in the forum. When you already know that I am trying to help here.:
Or maybe I am wrong about you. I see you got youre tongue pierced, it looks exactly like Shadow's because he has shown on of my trolls pics of it. What are you his twin now? lol. So, I see you might be talking to him right now and trying to get to where you want to be. Maybe it's just me being like this. But then again I havent heard from you since my last msgs. Idk, just let me know how things are going because I do care.
Okay you and Shadow may be fine. But it dosent seem like it. You are not being there for him any at all. You are still treating him like shit because I can still see Shadow is upset. Erin and Crackhead have been attacking him on the forum. And Erin actually thinks I'm Shadow? lol, everyday gets better! Okay, I like Shadow a lot but that is rediculous. This was all coming from you, I know it. She wouldnt assume I was Shadow if she didnt hear all this from you. You are still ignoring Shadow and not opening yourself to him. Why? There is a reason why you are not, what is it? Did you give up? You have to get back up and work this out, I'm telling you Mandy. Dont let this one slip away.
So, tell me. I want you to open up to me and let it all out. Let out your tears and tell me how it is. Tell me how much people mean to you. I am a friend and I want to hear this from you.
So, should I be worried or concerned? Are you really taking the chance to make a change for the better? I know it's hard to feel the way you are feeling right now. But you do have real people in your life. I concider myself to be one of them. I will continue to try and get you to that path you want to be in. You havent thanked me yet, but as life gets later I want you to know that you wont be disappointed.
I plan to come over and visit you two. We can watch football, party, or whatever it is you hardcore poeple do. I want in!! Personally I want to see the next romantic love story, with you cuddled up with Shadow on the side of a couch doing little tease soft kisses. That's just me though, lol. (I know you hate it but dont get mad I mentioned how I feel) But you two are good friends and it makes me so happy to see this. I want to stand by your side through this. I want to see progress and outstanding high development. I want to see you happy and living the greatest life. Everybody that cares about you will be so happy. Even your brother and the rest of your family. Maybe you wont see it now, but it will happen.
Why? You are pushing me out of your life? You know we can become good buddies. I'd just like to know what would you do to me if you did see me? Tell me what is going on in your head right now. I am really trying to help here. Or maybe it's that I have put you through so much shit and hurt you pretty bad, isnt it? Come on, this is what makes you stronger as a person. Dont let people push you around. Let's put our past aside and start a new. This is what you want and this is what you need to be. A new beginning for Mandy. I am giving you motivation to be stronger. Playing as a troll puts you down, but you can reverse it and make it better. I believe in you and I know you can. Momless, jobless, homeless, these are reasons what helps you better by trying something new. You know you can Mandy, stop looking down on yourself and push yourself forward. Okay, here's something that will get you up there. Do this for the one you care about, as much as he does for you and wants you to be at a better place in life. Do this for Shadow then. I highly doubt you have somebody that tries so hard to help you have a better life for yourself as much as he has done. And highly doubt anybody has done what I have done by saying things to you to help make you grow.
I see what you are doing. Pole dancing classes and boxing. You are doing this on your own arent you? Then where is Shadow going to be involved in this? Once you get on your feet, then are you going over to be there for Shadow? I'm not sure exactly what you have planned or what you are thinking about, but I hope it works out.
Oh and forgot to mention that you are boyfriendless too. So, really you dont have anybody for you. And from the looks of it, you dont have Shadow anymore either do you? How about this, I will not take a step into yours and Shadows life. But you know what, that's fine. And I have my ways to find out if Shadow is happy or not. And the only thing that will make him, is you. So, when I found out if Shadow is breaking apart. Then you probably should expect me coming back to you again and again. I will not stop until you an Shadow make that connection. Do you know why I left you for a while without saying anything? Because I knew you and Shadow were doing fine. You two were making that close connection already, there was no need for me anymore. Now, I am back and seeing Shadow broken. Okay, here I go again starting at the first day.
And if you dont know what I will do next, then keep your eyes lock up on the screen. I'm not going to hurt you and Shadow anymore. The only way you can get me off and delete my profile for good and wont EVER see me again. Well, you already know what to do. But if you continue this, it's time for Drayn to open out and get into the forum again. I will do it!! Dont test me on this. Get back to being friends with Shadow again and keep thinking positive about yourself.
Yeah, I can tell you are stubborn. You are just like Shadow for real. He cant get anything through his mind, except for the one thing he cares about. And that is you. There is no telling Shadow anything different, because he dosent listen to shit. I knew I had to do this eventually, I think it's about time I tell everyone in the forum the truth about who is behind this. And I dread to do this because now I have to talk to past people and actually make a return here. This fucking sucks, but it has to be done.
Is that what you want me to do? Do you want Shadow and the rest to actually know the truth and what has been going on? I can make Shadow go against you if I wanted. It is not hard at all. Is this what you are wanting? Come on and step up for him. You do care about Shadow and you are in love with him. Break out from your shell, stop being stubborn and do something.
Admit it! You are in love with Shadow. I have figured it out! You are trying to impress him and showing him that you can do this on your own. You are wanting him to want you more by getting your tongue pierced and going into pole dancing. You are showing your colors, I can see it. Do you want me to get his number for you? It's not hard. Aw, you are such a sweetheart for real.
Wow, you are throwing Shadow out like that? He is not what you say he is Mandy. I thought better of you. Give him at least ONE chance. You can prove all the others wrong. You do love him, show your heart. You love him!!! Tell me you do. No girl can be this stubborn. Not after a guy has done so much for them. Shadow may be a jerk in the forum, but you isnt? They all play around, but he loves you. This is the guy you need in your life. You know you do. Admit it!! Come on Mandy, think about this for a second. He is the guy you need. You two are exactly the same person, you will crush yourself if you dont get with him. Use your brain for once. I know you have probably lost a lot of brain cells. But Shadow is straight egde and has a great life. So, you wont have to worry about abuse. You wont have to worry about him being fucked up. You wont have to worry any about your man. He'll always be there, you cant see this for yourself? Stop being so fucking blind and take him.
ADMIT IT! You are hiding this, you love Shadow! I am hearing wedding bells right now. For real, look at yourself. Shadow is your man, he is the man in your dreams. He is holding Mandy's heart right now. Because you gave it to him. You two are going to kiss and make beautiful children. You two are going to live a happy life together. And you are going to do this without me knowing. You want to hold Shadow in your arms right now in front of the fireplace kissing. You are so in love. Mandy is in love!!! Admit it!
I cant believe you called him that. You have lost your mind. When you already know you two will be holding hands and walking on the beach. You know he'll be the one to sweep you off your feet and tells you he's in love with you and actually mean that. Isnt that what you want? You already have Shadow, so why break his heart? It's not good for someone to ignore another like this. You are hurting his feelings. Dont hide from him. You do love him!
I just told him about everything. Dont be surprised that he will delete his profile. If you actually was feeling him as a friend, I would have did you a favor and gave him his number because I have it. But no, you have used, betrayed, abandoned, and crushed Shadow once again. But you have done it worse this time. You told him you loved him and cared for him. But you lied!! You are such a liar, you have used him into thinking that you are what he thought. The only reason why Shadow is here now is because of you. But you cant see him and now you fucked everything once again. Shadow could have been the man of your dreams. But whatever, you may get one last message from Shadow. That's if he even cares anymore about you after he hears this.
I got a reply back from Shadow. You are going to lose him Mandy. Is this what you want? Look at your heart for once, dont let me go like this. You know what is right for you. You know Shadow is the right guy for you. You keep listening to fucked up people that dont know shit about anything. Because if you dont have him, who is going to be that guy next to you til the end? Who will be that guy that will always be there like Shadow has been? Tell me Mandy. You cant let him slip, not when he means the world to you. And you know he does. You two have made a better connection than any other you'll ever meet. And you didnt give Shadow a chance to actually go to him and see him in person. Because I know for a fact that he is perfect for you and you two will fall in love. Dont make me give up on you Mandy. I am still trying to let you see this opportunity of a lifetime and you are spoiling it. Shadow and Mandy always and forever! Keep these words in your mouth. Whether it is the best of friends or the best of lovers. You two can be anything and you will FINALLY understand why I have been right this whole time. You'll be saying "DRAYN IS FINALLY RIGHT FOR SOMETHING!!" Dont let him pass you up, I'm telling you!!! Please listen!!!
Like that? lol, so you just leave him like that. Damn you are little ms hardcore arent ya? I feel so sorry for him but if this is what you want then fine. You are so evil! I cant believe you out of all people. Well, hopefully it wont bite you in the ass later. You do realize this is a big decision, right? Did you really think this through in your head? You do want this, right? Hey I'm just making sure. I see this as a big loss in Mandy's corner. But maybe now that Shadow is gone, you might have some time with someone like... me. haha. Get your little ass over to me and let me plessure you for a while. lol. But seriously, I am kind of shocked and speechless. I guess I wont be seeing that Shadow and Mandy episode after all. Well, I have to give credit to him for trying his best for you. But now I feel sad that it didnt work out. hmmm, *focus Drayn focus*
You'll have bad days in your life. Dont you think it would be good to have a guy around that will try to make you feel better. A guy that will treat you like how you want to be treated. Your life sucks right now, why make it even worse by making a wrong move like this. Okay, I'm a guy and if I was single. And I had a female that was in the same position as Shadow is right now. Hell, I'd go for it. What do I have to lose? If it was going to make me more happier and feel more better, I'd do anything to get to her. If she was taking the time out of her life and giving it all to me, I would do it. Hell yeah, I wouldnt miss this chance. I'd get the fuck out of Texas and go to KY for her. This is what I would need. And plus if it was a chick that was just like who I am. It makes things even better because I know this is the one that will truely work out for me. But now take a look at yourself. You had Shadow as that guy, sometimes I wish I could switch bodies with you just for a week. I only need one week in your body and I'll prove you wrong about him. Once you get back in yours, you'd understand why I was trying so hard to hook you up with this guy.
One thing that still confuses me. You are hiding something, what the hell are you hiding? Why didnt you just tell Shadow yourself that you didnt like him and everything? You do still care for him dont you? You are still in love with him and it is going to crush you even more if you did say that to him. Admit it! Go ahead and say it now, you've already lost him. There is still a reason you are not hurting Shadow, you still side with him. I know you have a heart Mandy, everyone does. You cant hide this. Why would you do this to Shadow? This isnt the Mandy I know!! Tell me your reasoning why you did this?
Haha, what? Okay, so everything that I have been saying makes me a pedo? haha, are you serious? God damn, I keep forgetting you are still a young teen. Still 16, no wonder you are so fuckin stubborn. Listen, all I'm saying is that you freaked me out by going against Shadow like this. You two are like brother and sister. Nobody has made a great connection as much as you and him have. And the only reason why you are hating him is because of me. Shadow dosent look at you as his lover, Shadow dosent want you to be his girl. All Shadow wants is a girl that is LIKE you, he dosent mean you. Hey, I'm just letting you know about this. But really, you throwing out your best friend is like having cancer. I was just kidding about you and Shadow becoming lovers and all that. I will leave you alone for now on, I have truely fucked up everything for you anyways. But if I was you, I'd still keep him as a friend. Because Shadow does make you happy and this is the Mandy we all want to see. I mean look where you are at right now. You are practically on your own. So, how does it make a guy that is a little older and cares so much about you consider him to be a pedo? I am not using you and neither is Shadow. Using you would mean that we have sexual desires and are wanting to fuck you. That's what a pedo is. Me and Shadow are just good friends and you can trust us. We promise nothing bad will happen to you. If you get hurt or something, this is where we come in handy. Because you'll have two good friends staying by your side until you recover. And this is what you want, right?
Haha, funny. So tell me, what do you see me as being a pedo? Do you actually believe you were going to be with Shadow? Hey, I dont live in your life. It's not my decision. I'm was saying by the time you turn 18, I would love to switch bodies with you and be with him. But I keep forgetting you are only 16. Yeah, I know. So, sorry. Remember when Dersh said in the forums that it seems like you and Shadow had this really close bond like brother and sister, or you was getting true feelings from him. Well, it wasnt true feelings. But it was a good brother and sister connection. This was all I was saying, it wasnt nothing more. But still even if you did fall in love, it wouldnt have been a bad thing. Me personally, I was the guy that just decided to help make a friendship grow. It dosent classify me as a pedo. I dont want to be apart of your life, lol.
Umm, okay? So, why dont you want to talk then? Come on, I dont want to look at this as a big waste of time. What is it I can do to make you see things? You know that I care, you know that I do love you. And now you are pushing me away. Is this what you want? To keep pushing away people that is meaning to you. Oh yeah and I'm not a troll. You are seeing me as the real thing. This is as real as it gets, because nobody has actually seen me before. Well, at least give me a chance. Come on, the reason you you are still talking to me is because you still do care. Look at all the things I have done. You know that I have became a big help to you. Why cant you see this? Why cant you see people for who they are? There are people trying to help, you keep pushing away the people that have the most meaning to you. Do you want that? NO!! This isnt going to help Mandy at all, look at yourself and ask is this what you want to do? You know it's wrong! I have been helping and I did make a change. NOW KEEP IT!! Everything I have done made you feel a lot better. Everything I have done made you see new things. Stop hanging around the fuck ups and live a better life. Stop drinking and stay clean. This is what is going to help you grow. You are destroying brain cells and look at your future children. If you keep doing this to yourself, you are going to fuck it up for them. If you cant stay happy and you are feeling stressed, you are going to start gaining weight. MAKE A CHANGE! Listen to me, I promise you everything will be better. I care, I'm here for you. Dont push me out of your life too.

I am trying as hard as I can to make you see this and listen to me. I may be annoying, I know I am. But this is the only way you are going to see this. Dont do it Mandy! Dont push away everything I have work for on here. I did all this for you, not Shadow. You can see how much I care.
f I didnt care about you, then why am I still talking to you? I do care so much about you. This is all about you. I wouldnt have done any of this is it wasnt. I have listened to you, I do respect you. I feel sorry about everything you went through in life. And I cant do anything to make it better. You are special and you do mean so much. This is why I still continue help. And I dont give up, I never give up. Especially not for someone I care about. You want motivation, I'm giving it to you right here. These are things that are going to get you up on your feet. These are things that makes you stronger. By bringing positive people in your life, this is what helps you grow as a person. This is what means the most. The days you are feeling down, means that I have to try harder. The days you are sick, means that I have to support as best as I can. The days you are looking down on yourself and making bad decisions and choices means that I have to take it to a higher level to make you think better of yourself. These are the reasons why I care so much, these are the reasons why I shouldnt be let go. Look in your heart, you know what is best for you. I do care, always have and always will.
thought you might find this update a little interesting. Shadow went out and got his belly peirced today. I didnt talk to him very long, but he told me that he is going to North Carolina to see Minka and learn how to belly dance too. And if you are curious, yes Minka is 18 years old so she is legal for him. But they are really close friends now. And I was actually shocked Shadow did his belly because in the past weeks it was about matching with you. Now I'm confused why if he isnt friends with you anymore. lol. Dont get me wrong or anything, but I think you might have made him a little bit jealous when you got your tongue peirced. Personally, I think he is trying to make a higher step ahead of you Mandy. lo
So are you going to tell me how you've been doing lately or do I have to go step by step by trying to get you to tell me?
I know it dosent matter any to you. But I can tell Shadow is still hurt. It's hard for him not to bring you up. He has cared for you so long now. It's hard to let go a great connection like that. I know I am the one that started this whole thing. But in the end it has effected him more than you'll ever know. I'm not putting or bringing you down any for this. Because I too love and care for you. If I could only prove to you how, I would do it. I want you to know that I am there for you.
If you show Erin these msgs, I will personally get on the forums and tell everyone things. Dont do it!! I dont want anyone figuring out who I am. I swear if you do!!
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Mandy..
1. there’s only one person in the world I can imagine being that much of a twisted sicko and treating you that way.
2. He just so happens to be what every message is talking about.
3. There’s only one person who speaks of him that way: himself.
He’s showing the same behavioral little quirks that he shows outside of fucking up things for everyone else with his trolls and lies. You can see the Kentucky accent for one. See these quotes:
“more happier”
“ A guy that will treat you like how you want to be treated”
“Whether it is the best of friends or the best of lovers”
“I can tell you never got his number, so you pretty much lied to me that you was going to get it”
So one second they’re brother and sister with no love feelings, then they’re roommates, then they’re best friends, then they’re lovers? JESUS you are from Kentucky, Shadow… talk about incest.

That comment about the number.
“I can tell you never got his number” I’m sorry but this person knows WAY too much about Shadow’s personal life. Why is it this person can tell Mandy everything about how Shadow feels, what he thinks, what is happening, on both ends:
Because he himself is Shadow.
It is so Blatantly obvious with how much he talks about himself and kisses his own feet telling Mandy that he is all she needs.
I also couldn’t help to notice the “break this friendship” remark. Shadow is the only person who says that. He tried to accuse me of “breaking our friendship” when he stabbed both Mandy and myself in the back.

Listen to how demanding he’s being, how he’s honestly fucking with her emotions and trying to TELL her how to feel. He’s trying to make it so that she has no choice but too agree. Pretty pitiful the only way he can get a girl to love him is to TELL her she is in love.
Sounds like a demanding, over controlling, emotionally screwed over asshole too me.
I’m sorry but the signs are written up and down everything this person has said that the person speaking is Shadow himself. Mandy, I couldn’t help but to notice in your inbox:
You’d have several messages from Fake Drayn, then a few messages from Shadow, then several from Drayn, then some from Shadow. They alternated perfectly and only mixed once or twice.
The difference between me and Shadow is that I’ll tell you I’m your friend Mandy, and I’ll tell you I care about you: And I’ll prove it. I’ll actually help you. I’ll support your decisions. I’ll explain why I think you’re wrong on the occasions I think you are. I won’t be selfish about our friendship and let it revolve solely around me.
But that’s the thing: this isn’t a question about who will be the better friend for Mandy. Only Mandy decides that.
What is it about Mandy that makes us all want her in our lives so much?
Not even a question. Her fun personality, her understanding. Her outgoing ness. It’s true she’s made some big mistakes but as our conversation last night proved:
She also makes big comebacks.
So when she asked me on the phone last night what we should do to get her friends back, I did what she asked and read the messages. I decided what I thought was best and that is that I feel you all should know the truth. That someone here is a lying, deceptive snake trying to ruin the friendship experience for the rest of us. And that it is not in me to lie to you all and pretend to be her, even for her sake.
But I knew I couldn’t post this as it is very personal without her permission and so I got it. Here’s whats happened to Mandy dears.
I’m sure she can tell all of you for herself that she’s sorry:
But I’ll tell you this. She said it a dozen times on the phone with me last night and more importantly than saying it,
She meant it.
I respect that she has made mistakes because she’s learning from them and she TOLD me she has learned from this. She told me that she loves you guys and misses how things used too be.
I’m sure she can handle it from here with the apologies and the rebuilding of friendships.
And Mandy: once again, this is not me trying to tell you who is your friend and who isn’t. I understand fully that this person could simply be trying to indirectly come off as Shadow as they are VERY talented at giving the wrong ideas. I can not simply say I think it’s him because of my awful past with him, that would be approaching the situation with a bias opinion and hence lead to a wrong conclusion.
I just personally can’t imagine anyone else having it in them to do something like that. To try and fuck up everything else for you. Whoever this is only wants one person in your life, wants you to only depend on one person and to not have all the rest: whoever this is wants you to be alone in the dark. They want you to have too give your all to them because you are left with no other choice.
And they obviously want that person to be Shadow. Whoever this is doesn’t want you to have anyone else in your life, they want your attention focused solely on him.
And I can only imagine one person
Who would want you to endure such a thing.
This person explains that you have been a better person lately. My letter explains what kind of a person you've been lately.
But you seem to know it honey, or at least I can't think of any other reason why you called me last night and talked for so long, telling me how lost you felt and how alone thanks to the shit thats happened this summer.
So despite the harsh words:
I took a deep breath and said I'm here for you.
and I can say
honestly
I am.
And more importantly
I actually will be.
Always.

To everyone else:
I'm honestly done with the forums. It is impossible to know who to trust and know who is and is not a deceptive lying snake. My new account is
http://www.playlist.com/AmusicLoveR
You can also reach me and many other playlist members on the PPL google Group. You probably have a dedication page with a list of every song and photo dedicated too you there if you participated in the Song dedications thread. You can also edit the Dedication pages for other users to add more songs and photos.
This is still under construction however. There is also a working forum and the members get neat little profiles.
http://groups.google.com/group/pplloves
You can reach me there or on my new new profile because I'm not responding in the forums anymore.

I hope you all don't take me doing this as trying to stir the shitpot. This is me trying to show you what has been done too Mandy and trying to help her a little bit to do what she asked me too: help rebuild her friendships with you all. Any opinions you all have about what Mandy and I have just done please feel free to PM me I love talking too you all.
Mandy, you can take the wheel from here.

Mods, I do realise we've had quite a few quibbles, but I'd be mighty pleased if you banned this concieted pedophile immediately.

That Shadow guy is a total weirdo and should be banned from PPL for life.
I see mods deleting harmless topics just because of vulgar content.

HOW ABOUT BANNING/DELETING A VULGAR LIFEFORM LIKE HIM YEAH?

Exactly, he's like a noxious weed.

Shadow sickens me. The fact that he's done all of this stuff makes me wonder why the police haven't done anything to him yet. But for now, let's meet justice almost half-way and BLOCK his IP address FOREVER!!!!!!

DO IT!!! I'm sure a lot more people will join the site if you do...

down.

BUMP

I cannot convey how right you would be in doing this.

another thread, proving his obsession:
http://www.playlist.com/forum/general/topic/256759556
this is ALL he ever talks about.

another one of his trolls that he uses to manipulate:
http://www.playlist.com/user/47942254

necessary bump

Alright moderators, It's pretty safe to assume you've seen this thread by now and I'd like your acknowledgment of the problem here.

Even if you do not remove Shadow now, I want this thread to serve as written documentation of the ongoing problems with this user, and at very least, count as strike #1.

Mods, you should copy this thread and make it a sticky thread.

bump